Precision trolling data where do you calculate depth from. The line itself sinks and is typically used to get crankbaits to dive deeper, but nwt pro john hoyer uses it for a different reason in shallow water. Sep 24, 2010 a great aid for determining how deep a particular lure or weightbait combination will dive are the dive charts compiled in precision trolling big water edition. Talora trolling rods are built with tc4 construction and are designed to be durable and bring your fishing experience to a new level. Apr 24, 2007 a general rule of lead core is one color equals 5 feet of sink.
Jun 27, 20 lead core trolling tutorial on june 27, 20 by kirt hedquist doctor sonar pro staff leadcore trolling, for me, has become a huge part of my fishing arsenal. Print of the year, outdoor news history book, outdoor news clothing and more. Sadly we werent able to catch any keeper walleye but. Leadcore fishing line is nothing more sophisticated than dacron line with a solid lead core to weigh it downthink of a spool of thindiameter. Precision trolling data uses highly trained scuba divers and sophisticated scuba techniques to actually observe lures. Leadcore trolling equipment for summer walleyes youtube.
Aug 09, 2017 todays top 4 17lb walleyes existin the states. Walleye trolling by curtis niedermier and captain ross robertson is a complete guide to trolling techniques used by the best professional guides and tournament anglers in north america. The sonar was marking a ton of fish but no matter what we tried we couldnt get them to bite. Got introduced to leadcore trolling last year by a guide. In trolling jargon, a full core is 10 colors of lead core line or a full, 100yard spool. Is there a book that someone would recommend that i could buy to refresh my memory on the basics for using leadcore. Jason mitchell details basic leadcore trolling tactics that present small crankbaits at precise depth levels, cover water and trigger walleye strikes. The wire works great and allows deep diving cranks to get down to the fish. Shimano talora trolling rods are some of the very best downrigger, dipsy diver, planer board, wireline and lead core trolling rods available. When the bottom started to pull at my lure i cranked in a couple of turns and sat back to troll a contour around a point that seemed to have fish congregated on it. Amount of line out, trolling speed and lure weight determine lure depth. What is the advantage of trolling lead core, vs putting splitshot on the line, 3way.
Jul 21, 2017 testing lure data for precision trolling data, llc mark romanack talks about how we measure the line length and what the transducer shows. Leadcore for walleyes mississippi river walleye in. How2tv rapala husky jerk for walleye video scr deep hj icast v2 video. Copper vs leadcore we are wrapping up tradeshow season, and one of the many benefits for us as a company is the ability to interact with new and existing customers. But lately, instead of covering miles of water with six lines in tow, savvy. He fishes crankbaits on the lead core, using planer boards and snap weights. A great aid for determining how deep a particular lure or weightbait combination will dive are the dive charts compiled in precision trolling big water edition. Baron rod 4 light medium action spinnning rods and reels this boat package has reeled in a lot of fish action and will be enjoyed by any avid fisherman. Dont ever discount lead core as an old school technique, i will run lead core over dipsys any day. They are powered for solid hook sets and designed with an action sensitive enough to keep the hook held firmly in the fishs mouth. It has enjoyed some resurgence among lake trout, salmon, and walleye trollers, and may be effective when other trolling tools are not.
Generally targeting suspended fish in 6075 ft of water. Whether youre fishing from shore or on a boat, on a river or massive. Copper trolling wire vs leadcore blood run tackle co. Earlier in the day, our regular crew of fall walleye chasers was shut out while. How to troll with lead core fishing line the fishidy blog. Vermilion walleye hunter techniques the main stay for lake vermilion is live bait rigging with a jig and minnow or lindy rig, but at times down rigging and lead core trolling can be the quickest way to provide a shore lunch. Setting up leadcore rod lake ontarios largest fishing.
The precision trolling book is a great place to start but do keep in mind that your speed will play a major factor in determining the depth of your crankbait. Make sure your reel has enough line capacity to hold 10 colors of lead. Limit creek fishing rod company sensitive, affordable rods. When parsons first came to lake erie nearly a decade ago, lead core line furnished his primary means for getting minnow lures deep. If its rough, the boat doesnt bother the walleyes as much, so i put out flat lines and boards. Book on leadcore basics page 2 walleye message central. Telescopic trolling rods work extremely well for lead core, hard lines and planer boards. Sep 24, 2019 controlling trolling speed allows anglers to precisely dial in specific trolling depths.
I generally run 5 colors of lead core off of planer boards on the right side and 6 colors on the left side until i get some action. In this, the final installment of a 3 part series on trolliing lead core line, keith kavajecz and gary parsons cover the tactic of trolling segmented lead core. Clam jason mitchell pro walleye series trolling rod 10ft. Trolling lead core with small crank baits is also producing fish in the main river channel north of chamberlain. Okuma classic pro 7 medium lead core trolling rod wchartreuse tip cplc70ct. For instance, when trolling segmented lead core in clear open water, long leaders are the rule. Unlike the precision trolling book that provides depth diving data for crankbaits, the big water edition focuses on diving planers, lead core line, snap weights and other big water trolling gear. Today he favors the simplicity and flexibility of snap weights. My suggestion is to get the precision trolling book if you do not already own one. Even if you have the right trolling set up and speed, you still need good bait rigging.
I use afw stainless steel trolling wire for walleye fishing on lake eries central basin. For my lead core set ups, i prefer a large capacity line counter reel like the abu garcia alphamar linecounter. Getting off the ground with a new system can be challenging. The trollers bible precision trolling data, llc is an independent company that documents the diving depth of popular fishing lures such as crankbaits and also common trolling hardware such as diving planers and also sinking lines like lead core. Lake francis case and pickstown at fort randal dam have all been producing some great fishing for early spring. I will follow this thread to see if there is more information out there that i am missing. I am looking to start pleasure trolling 45 guys for walleye and have not purchased the necessary equipment. The line is also lubricated, which makes it slip through guides easier, and the finish is heatset for colorfastness. Over the past ten years, trolling with lead core line has gained in popularity amongst the walleye crowd. Trolling with leadcore line was once a principal means of fishing deep in freshwater, but decreased greatly in popularity with the increased usage of downriggers and diving planers. That is where crankbaits, spinners and the 3way swivel come in. Rapala logo lures, rapala fishing pro series ps4 item rvgrfpsps4 and rapala fishing pro series xbox one item rvgrfpsx1. Leadcore setup outdoor gear forum indepth outdoors. Have only been out a few times with it since im a walleye guy over here mainly, but plan on a few trips to that side.
It is always great to hear some success stories, a firm handshake and thanks from a guy who had a successful prior season and whacked fish on a copper or stainless wire program. Color metering every 10 yards with a high visibilty dye enables the angler to instantly determine depth. Apr 15, 2008 others, like mark romanack, author of precision trolling, the book better known as the trollers bible, prefer leadcore line over anything else. Theres one swimming around right now in lake sakakawea, nd. From the best equipment to use, trolling, lures, tackles, and crankbaits, these books impart every detail of the art and process of walleye fishing. Lead core and snap weights michigan sportsman online. Trolling lead core line is the best way to reach these deeper species from a kayak. One of the least understood advantages of adding trolling weights is the angler can achieve depth two ways. The book lists dive curve charts for planers, leadcore line, weights and more. Id just put a 10 color spool of lead core on each reel with the leader of your choice and youre ready for any depth you may want to fish.
How to troll for walleye planer board, lead core line, and bottom bounce duration. Leadcore is great for getting down deep without letting out alot of line and works well in river situations where current kinda messes up your lure depth when just standard longline trolling. Getting started with leadcore joel nelson outdoors. If i would ever need to get them to run deeper how does one calculate the snap or inline weights and line leads to get approximate desired depths. Copper can be a pain in the butt and has several disadvantages. Trolling has dominated walleye tournaments for decades and put up the biggest stringers for recreational anglers, too. In fact, on a recent outing to big rideau lake, i landed eight of these jewels in an eight hour period. There are a ton of great trolling rods out there and they wont break your bank. Jun 08, 2001 i just looked at my precision trolling book the other day for this particular information. Whether trolling or casting, many anglers use a fluorocarbon tippet between their lure and main line as fluorocarbon is nearly invisible in the water. This do it all trolling rod features the right combination of back bone and tip to compensate for the lack of stretch when using lead core and hard lines. Contains gore performance fibers to allow for more strength and sensitivity, yielding 30% more depth than comparable trolling lines. These 10 books on walleye fishing present readers with all the different strategies and techniques so they are informed and can select the method that is most appealing. Precision trolling data, llc is an independent company that documents the diving depth of popular fishing lures such as crankbaits and also common trolling hardware such as diving planers and also sinking lines like lead core.
Lance valentines walleye 101 sufix 832 advanced lead core. Insert free guide train and magnum reel seat for large capacity reels compliments this durable rod action that features both. The more i used it however, the more advantages i saw i. Lead core line precision trolling depth calculator apps.
While fishing on sakakawea for the nwt, wed be running cranks along the shoreline, but thered be a dozen little points sticking out 3040 in a milelong stretch. Get the best deals on trolling fishing rods when you shop the largest online selection at. Since its a thicker diameter line due to the lead inside of its core, it does use up some space on the. Tufline lead core line tightly braided high tenacity nylon multifilament yarn encapsulates a 99. If you have a topic youd like us to cover, send us a.
However, when it comes to depth curves, trolling lead core line is very speed sensitive. I have run lead core from buffalo to the ohio islands, lead core is a huge part of my program. Other editions list dive information for a variety of lures. Trolling in control the bottom line on trolling lead core pt. Leadcore line has been around since the invention of synthetic materials, like dacron and nylon. Id choose the willis knot over the albright for lead core, especially since youre using bulkier 36lb core. Running a full core, ten colors, on a 47 is way overkill for eyes and you will soon hate the problems that will happen in your rookie experience your driving really changes that one side of the boat when s driving is to high and the other is dragging bottom. I learned some of the stuff i need to know from the guide, but have since forgot most of it. Our pure lead construction offers a smaller diameter than standard lead core lines. Chad is very personable and taught us about lead core trolling as well as a jigging technique and lure i hadnt used. What is the advantage of trolling lead core, vs putting splitshot on the line, 3way rigging a crank with a drag weight, or even a bouncer. Buy products related to lead core trolling line products and see what customers say about lead core trolling line products on free delivery possible on eligible purchases. Line is marked with different color, each ten yards in length.
Jig and minnowshiner is the primary bait of choice. Look at precision trolling and figure your dive curve off of your leader length, i run 50 leaders in front of the lead. Last year it really seemed like the ticket was lead core. Trolling swimbaits for walleye 9 matching articles field. My initial forays into leadcore for walleyes were pretty basic. Feb 10, 2012 if you want to get in to trolling pick up two books from. It is somewhat limited, but i believe it gives dive curves at three different speeds for 3 colors 30 feet correct. Plus, you can take a small, shallow running crankbait and troll it where no walleye has ever seen the lure before. I generally use 12lb berkley xt to fill half the spool. A 10 color spool of standard lead core will fill a size 30 reel perfectly to the top. This informative book offers tips and techniques that will help you to put more and bigger walleye in the boat. Trolling with leadcore for summer walleye outdoornews. Walleye trolling guide everything you need for trolling.
Leadcore trolling walleyes with brad hawthorne youtube. The essentials of lead core trolling and the snap weight system are covered in chapter 8 of lake erie walleye, on basic trolling. It also trolls beautifully at superslow speeds, even when run on leadcore or. From what ive read, the daiwa 47lc size will hold 10 colors of lead core i. Youve got the initial capital expense just in equipment, and a steep learning curve ahead regarding the use of it. When it comes to running leadcore line for walleyes however, both the cost and effort to get better at. Fishing with lead core line for trout, bass, walleye or salmon know more precisely depth youre trolling. At one time i was strictly a live bait rigger, and unless i had a hunk of meat on a hook where i didnt feel comfortable.
If you are not familiar with leadcore line, its a long thread of lead wire coated with a dacron covering for strength. Everyone has their opinion, but id probably get two 86. Suffix performace lead core is the perfect match for many trolling scenarios where you dont want to run a downrigger. Lead core line precision trolling depth calculator apps on. Once an angler has determined that a particular lure and lead length are effective at catching fish, its easy to search for other lures in the list of precision trolling app that achieve similar depths. An angler can certainly buy a highend setup, but to get in the game of leadcore trolling, it doesnt have to break the bank. A simple blood knot works well for attaching mono and lead. The book lists everything you need to know about trolling including. How to fish with lead core line for walleyes doctor sonar. Doing more with leadcore advanced tactics joel nelson. Holst spools his walleye rods with leadcore line in the heat of the summer, when walleye suspend over deep, structureless basins, chasing baitfish. As walleyes go deeper during the summer, using lead core fishing lines on your fishing reel can be a great fishing strategy for trolling for hot weather walleye fishing.
These are all important to know so you purchase the right rod the first time. As the word trolling suggests, there is a lot of paddling involved. Start with a full core 10 color setup, drop back a crankbait until it ticked bottom occasionally, and wait for a walleye or sauger to pull on the other end. Chapmans son said in a book that his dad found the record fish floating. I will run 35 colors in the shallower waters of the western basin and 310 colors around my home waters in ny state depending on how deep we are fishing. Generic reel on a diawa rod filled with lead core line shimano 200 spinning reel on a browning rod abu garcia bait casting reel on a 6 in. Fishing with leadcore for lake trout jackson adventures. Lead core enables anglers to put any crankbait in the tackle box in front of fish regardless of how deep. Lead core for erie walleye walleye lake ontario united. The precision trolling data app goes a step further. Trolling swimbaits for walleye 9 matching articles. The book lists dive curve charts for planers, lead core line, weights and more. Limit creek fishing rods are designed to have the perfect balance between power and action.
Jul 22, 2019 as walleyes go deeper during the summer, using lead core fishing lines on your fishing reel can be a great fishing strategy for trolling for hot weather walleye fishing. Lead core is an inexpensive way to get down to depths where fish are located. From monofilament to braid, and lead core to wire, walleye anglers can set up their rods and reels in many configurations. If its calm, says parsons, i put out nothing but boards. We were testing a few shallow water presentations and only caught one northern pike in the weeds trolling and one walleye on boulders with slip.
The big water edition features over 150dive curves targeted at the angler who trolls for walleye. The setup for segmented lead core is a bit different than when using straight lead core. Historically, the best tool for walleye trolling was a gasoline kicker motor. Depending on the state you fish in, you can use 1 to 4 rods that i know of per person. State fisheries biologists netted it during the spring spawning run, weighed it, stripped it of its eggs and returned it to the massive missouri river reservoir. Clam jason mitchell pro walleye series trolling rod the jason mitchell pro series trolling rod is designed specifically for wire and lead core. Discover more information about walleye trolling rigs.
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